Classroom: Womb 03-26-07
03-26-07 Suzy
Womb [Note: I did not like this days teaching at all]
I come from a dysfunctional family. I think my dad married my mom hoping that she could solve all of her problems.
I came to the Lord when I was 20. I couldn’t go to Beirut and study like I wanted because of the war. Then a verse came to my mind from Sunday school which said come to me those who are weary and I will give you rest. And I started looking for God and I said, “God I want to find you.” And where do you find God? In a church… so I started going from church to church – nominal Christian churches, and I did not find God. So I gave up hope that I would ever find God. I started teaching in the school where I learned. They said, “you are a good student, come and teach.” I hated it. I hated the kids, I hated teaching, I wanted to cry every day because I wanted to become a nurse not a teacher. Inside my heart was the desire to make sick people well. Then I met a teacher who said, “why don’t you read the Bible? There is life in the Bible. So I took it home and just started reading randomly, in Proverbs, and there was nothing about Jesus or the cross or anything. But I really felt God was speaking to me through these words. And I started talking to this woman and she discipled me. She began teaching me. I began to serve, and I met Jihad at Kings Kids and he fit exactly the list I had made from God for a life partner. So we got married. We both did a DTS, and afterwards I began– during that time I began to study about families and children and how they grew up, I would study and pray. And through this teaching, God showed me specific ways and times in my life that I had been wounded. I’ll share some stories later, and hopefully God will help you identify things that might be hurting you, too – because none of us come from perfect families.
When I talk about my parents, I’m not putting them down in any way – I’m just facing the reality. I would encourage you to do the same. Don’t feel like you’re betraying your family if you face the pain – what happened and how you got hurt. Allow the Lord to bring to the light what He wants to bring to the light. And the Lord doesn’t always just heal our hurts at one time; He just highlights certain things at certain times and heals them as it becomes a hindrance. So let Him lead you in this. In the book of Proverbs, it says “train the child in the way he ought to go and then you will not need to train him any more.”
Many of our problems go back to our time in the womb. Why am I saying this? Because this is a very foundational time in our lives. Depending on these 9 months and how the short time after this birth were, I have a good or a bad foundation. And if I have a good foundation in the early years of my life, then my life is stable and I can take a lot of stress. Just like the man who built his house on the rock and his house did stand. But if I built my house on the sand, my life will be very shaky and I will not be able to handle the stress.
So this teaching is good for you now so you can see what issues you need to pray about in your life and break in your life. And it’s also very important for your future if you want to get married or have kids. This is a time when a child is making very important decisions. Of course the child in the womb cannot think the way we think; but the child is able to receive impressions. The child here is like wet clay. When you have wet clay and you put it on your hands, it leaves an impression. What does a child need at this time? Acceptance. So they either get acceptance or rejection. They either get a message of life or a message of death. They either get bonded or not bonded. How does a child in the womb get accepted? The child does not hear and think like we do, but in the last 3 months they can hear very clearly because their ears are very developed. So if we want a child to feel accepted, who has lived and bonded with his mother – we need to take care of the child physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Physically, the mother can take of the child through exercise, eating well, speaking to it. Put your hands over your ears and try to hear. This is how the baby hears. When there are noises, the baby hears it. When there is arguing, the baby hears it, when there is music, the baby hears it. Not many people talk to their babies – especially fathers.
It’s important also for the father to be wanting this baby and for the baby to be happy with the father. If both the parents want the baby it will give the baby a very clear feeling of acceptance. But this is not always the case. The parents are not always happy that the baby is coming. Sometimes they’re struggling financially when they find out the baby is coming. And if the struggling is going on month after month, the baby will get the sense that it is not wanted. If it is just a surprise for a few days, it won’t have an effect – but if it continues it will.
If the mother tries to have an abortion, the spirit of death with be open to this child. (???)
So if you grew up wondering “why am I here? Why am I alive?” Maybe something happened in the womb. Some people get suicidal because of the spirit and message of death they feel in the womb. It could be active or passive suicide. Active suicide is just taking your life because you can’t cope with the spirit of death that is tormenting you. Or a passive suicide is slowly killing yourself – too much smoking or drinking.
The good news is that the Lord is there with you in the womb. And because He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever, that situation that you passed through years ago is still in front of Him, as though it is happening right now. That’s why He can enter into this picture and change it and heal you. When a child tries again and again to communicate and there is no response, he stops communicating because it is useless. He just gets inside of himself and lives by himself. He lives in a kind of autism. This is not the kind of extreme autism where you need help. But it’s just deciding to live by yourself away from people.
When I was preparing for this, the Lord showed me that I have this kind of autism in my life. He showed me that my mother never spoke to me, and that I would remove myself and have trouble building relationships. And the Lord told me that this is why I like to read so much! Because it’s a safe place and I don’t have to interact, I can just think and have fun with these authors. It always bothered me when she said, “you read too much, you should go and do other things.” And the Lord showed me that I was doing that because of these things.
So, are you saying that people who want to go into nature and live away from people are doing this because—it’s a bad thing?
Psalm 139:13-16
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them.
Imagine that when you were conceived it was like an explosion of fireworks. It was a beautiful joy. I love what this passage says, “knitted.” I do knitting, and all of the cross stitches and time and effort I put into it. Take a moment and meditate on these verses, and how much work and care God put into creating you.
What about the spiritual? What can the parents do for spiritual input into the child’s life? Praying over the baby, playing worship songs and praising – the child is very sensitive to these spiritual things. He is able to be close to the Lord. Speaking positive things over the child and blessing the child. Taking care of yourself spiritually is important – reading scriptures, asking the Lord to give us words for this child’s life. “Lord, give me a prophesy or a verse for this child so I can speak it over him all the time.” And to my surprise, when he started walking and talking, he would say this words all by himself. When we went to church and started praising the Lord, they would start kicking and screaming as though they were praising the Lord.
Sometimes the baby aborts itself because of these messages! They disappear. The mother has miscarriage and there is no explanation for it. The spirit of death can be so strong, sometimes. And the Lord says we need to just pull out these weeds.
How do we get rid of these weeds? Do we just cut them or break them? So if I have problems in my life with rejection, I cannot bond – the Lord needs to show me the roots of these feelings. It doesn’t help to take medicine and just say “okay, pull yourself together.” So we’re going to take some time just to be quiet before the Lord. And ask Him to come, and give Him permission to come and remind you of things that you have gone through as a child. We don’t remember when we were in the womb, but because the Holy Spirit was there, He can remind us of things. He can give us an impression or a thought. He knows exactly what has happened. He knows exactly what I can receive. We just need to give Him the impression to remind us. This is how the Lord healed me, and I’ve seen many people being healed in this way. He would show me a situation when I got hurt, I would see it as it happened, and then what the Lord does is He enters into that picture. He comes into that same situation and He shows me what His will for me was at that time. It wasn’t His will that I would feel rejected and get a message of death. And then naturally we ask Him why He did let that happen. Each of us has a question like that to ask God. The quick easy answer is because of free will. He gave us free will and we have the ability to make sinful choices. But when the Lord comes into the picture and shows me what He would have wanted for me at that time, and I allow Him to give me those things that I did not God, and to heal the wounds, then He actually does a miracle and it’s healed. And then we still have the memory but it doesn’t hurt anymore. I used to have so much emotional pain inside because of what happened. After the Lord healed me, I still remember what happened, but there’s no more pain, there’s just peace. Where there was fear, He put peace. Where there was rejection, He put acceptance. Where there was death, He replaced it with life. Where there was autism, God gave me the ability to make relationships. So let’s close our eyes and have some quiet time. See what the Lord will bring to our minds.
Coffee Break
In Greek, the word “salvation” means all these things: healing, deliverance, wholeness, restoration, eternal life.
We communicate with the people around us through our souls. That’s why it’s important to get our souls healed so we can go out into the world and reach out to other people. When God tells me to go out and reach out to the world, if my soul is wounded, I will do it in a certain way. If I am whole, I will reach out in a way that reflects God’s wholeness and goodness.
Let me give you an example from my life. A few months ago, the Lord told me to go to a certain baker and tell him that God loves him. But the problem was that God told me to do that in a very different way – which was to go and clean all the tables and chairs in his little bakery and then to tell him that God loves him; I was doing this to show him that God loves him. Those things were so filthy. They were black. If God would have asked me that 5 or 10 years ago, I would have said “no thank you!” Look at God’s creativity and how He wants to reach people. So I took my bucket and Clorox and I went to this man, my heart was pounding and I was thinking, “what is he going to tell me?” And I went to him and told him I wanted to clean his tables and chairs, not because they were dirty, but because God loves you. And I started cleaning. He began to help me. He wanted to help, and he started getting upset and told me, “you know what I am doing right now? I am asking the Lord to clean me just like these tables and chairs.” So, I’m just telling you this to show you the importance of being healed.
Now, back to the baby in the womb. The baby receives everything it needs from the mother. How? Through the umbilical chord. Everything the mother is going through, the child is effected by it. Also the mother needs the baby because of her maternal instincts. So they both need each other, it’s not just one. This is called symbiosis. This is the relationship between two or more characters that depend on each other to get their needs met. One needs the other to survive. Sometimes this word is used with animals. Remember this word because it’s important for the next stage.
Praise the Lord for ultrasound so that we can recognize when there is more than one baby.
Studies show that if your mother had a difficult birth, or a long labor for hours and hours, that child grew up with the idea that life is so hard and it takes so much energy to live and you just cannot face this day.
We always think of the mother when we think about birth – how difficult it is for the mother. But think from the child’s point of view. You’re warm and surrounded by waters. You’re comfortable. Pretty soon you start to turn upside down. Then one day all of the water is gone and you start to get sucked out. And every once in a while somebody yells “push!” – and when this happens you are squeezed from all sides. And when you come out it is so bright, and so cold. And they wrap you in something that they think is soft, and they hit you on the bottom, and start cleaning you and putting tubes up your nose to clean you.
There’s a verse in psalms that says “you pulled me out of my mother’s womb” – the Lord was there when you were born. He pulled you out when you were born. It wasn’t just a doctor or a nurse. Have you ever heard that before? It was a revelation for me. It gave me so much security. From the moment I was born He was holding me. He kept holding me.
Okay, this baby has been born. What’s his job now? Eat. Sleep. Grow. Just to be. He doesn’t even need to go to the toilet. This is another stage of foundation in our lives. This stage and the stage before it determine our lifestyle – our personalities. Depending on how I am taken care of, here, my personality will develop. What’s required of parents, now? Tender, love, and care. “TLC.” Unconditional nurturing. Other things can wait. Shopping can wait. Visits can wait. Even sleep can wait; but the child’s needs cannot wait. If the child is not properly taken care of at this time, they have a very weak foundation; because human beings are body, soul, and spirit. So we need to take care of the child on all these levels.
Symbiosis is still very strong in this child. So much that this baby still thinks that he and his mom are one. Although the umbilical chord is cut – it’s still there, but it’s invisible. The symbiotic relationship between mother and child is still very important, now. It means survival. If mommy is taking good care of me, I will survive. I will learn to trust. If I am not taken good care of, I will not trust and will grow up with the sense that something is very wrong with me. When I’m taken care of, I feel like I am good. I don’t think my mommy is a good mom, but I am good.
Womb [Note: I did not like this days teaching at all]
I come from a dysfunctional family. I think my dad married my mom hoping that she could solve all of her problems.
I came to the Lord when I was 20. I couldn’t go to Beirut and study like I wanted because of the war. Then a verse came to my mind from Sunday school which said come to me those who are weary and I will give you rest. And I started looking for God and I said, “God I want to find you.” And where do you find God? In a church… so I started going from church to church – nominal Christian churches, and I did not find God. So I gave up hope that I would ever find God. I started teaching in the school where I learned. They said, “you are a good student, come and teach.” I hated it. I hated the kids, I hated teaching, I wanted to cry every day because I wanted to become a nurse not a teacher. Inside my heart was the desire to make sick people well. Then I met a teacher who said, “why don’t you read the Bible? There is life in the Bible. So I took it home and just started reading randomly, in Proverbs, and there was nothing about Jesus or the cross or anything. But I really felt God was speaking to me through these words. And I started talking to this woman and she discipled me. She began teaching me. I began to serve, and I met Jihad at Kings Kids and he fit exactly the list I had made from God for a life partner. So we got married. We both did a DTS, and afterwards I began– during that time I began to study about families and children and how they grew up, I would study and pray. And through this teaching, God showed me specific ways and times in my life that I had been wounded. I’ll share some stories later, and hopefully God will help you identify things that might be hurting you, too – because none of us come from perfect families.
When I talk about my parents, I’m not putting them down in any way – I’m just facing the reality. I would encourage you to do the same. Don’t feel like you’re betraying your family if you face the pain – what happened and how you got hurt. Allow the Lord to bring to the light what He wants to bring to the light. And the Lord doesn’t always just heal our hurts at one time; He just highlights certain things at certain times and heals them as it becomes a hindrance. So let Him lead you in this. In the book of Proverbs, it says “train the child in the way he ought to go and then you will not need to train him any more.”
Many of our problems go back to our time in the womb. Why am I saying this? Because this is a very foundational time in our lives. Depending on these 9 months and how the short time after this birth were, I have a good or a bad foundation. And if I have a good foundation in the early years of my life, then my life is stable and I can take a lot of stress. Just like the man who built his house on the rock and his house did stand. But if I built my house on the sand, my life will be very shaky and I will not be able to handle the stress.
So this teaching is good for you now so you can see what issues you need to pray about in your life and break in your life. And it’s also very important for your future if you want to get married or have kids. This is a time when a child is making very important decisions. Of course the child in the womb cannot think the way we think; but the child is able to receive impressions. The child here is like wet clay. When you have wet clay and you put it on your hands, it leaves an impression. What does a child need at this time? Acceptance. So they either get acceptance or rejection. They either get a message of life or a message of death. They either get bonded or not bonded. How does a child in the womb get accepted? The child does not hear and think like we do, but in the last 3 months they can hear very clearly because their ears are very developed. So if we want a child to feel accepted, who has lived and bonded with his mother – we need to take care of the child physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Physically, the mother can take of the child through exercise, eating well, speaking to it. Put your hands over your ears and try to hear. This is how the baby hears. When there are noises, the baby hears it. When there is arguing, the baby hears it, when there is music, the baby hears it. Not many people talk to their babies – especially fathers.
It’s important also for the father to be wanting this baby and for the baby to be happy with the father. If both the parents want the baby it will give the baby a very clear feeling of acceptance. But this is not always the case. The parents are not always happy that the baby is coming. Sometimes they’re struggling financially when they find out the baby is coming. And if the struggling is going on month after month, the baby will get the sense that it is not wanted. If it is just a surprise for a few days, it won’t have an effect – but if it continues it will.
If the mother tries to have an abortion, the spirit of death with be open to this child. (???)
So if you grew up wondering “why am I here? Why am I alive?” Maybe something happened in the womb. Some people get suicidal because of the spirit and message of death they feel in the womb. It could be active or passive suicide. Active suicide is just taking your life because you can’t cope with the spirit of death that is tormenting you. Or a passive suicide is slowly killing yourself – too much smoking or drinking.
The good news is that the Lord is there with you in the womb. And because He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever, that situation that you passed through years ago is still in front of Him, as though it is happening right now. That’s why He can enter into this picture and change it and heal you. When a child tries again and again to communicate and there is no response, he stops communicating because it is useless. He just gets inside of himself and lives by himself. He lives in a kind of autism. This is not the kind of extreme autism where you need help. But it’s just deciding to live by yourself away from people.
When I was preparing for this, the Lord showed me that I have this kind of autism in my life. He showed me that my mother never spoke to me, and that I would remove myself and have trouble building relationships. And the Lord told me that this is why I like to read so much! Because it’s a safe place and I don’t have to interact, I can just think and have fun with these authors. It always bothered me when she said, “you read too much, you should go and do other things.” And the Lord showed me that I was doing that because of these things.
So, are you saying that people who want to go into nature and live away from people are doing this because—it’s a bad thing?
Psalm 139:13-16
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them.
Imagine that when you were conceived it was like an explosion of fireworks. It was a beautiful joy. I love what this passage says, “knitted.” I do knitting, and all of the cross stitches and time and effort I put into it. Take a moment and meditate on these verses, and how much work and care God put into creating you.
What about the spiritual? What can the parents do for spiritual input into the child’s life? Praying over the baby, playing worship songs and praising – the child is very sensitive to these spiritual things. He is able to be close to the Lord. Speaking positive things over the child and blessing the child. Taking care of yourself spiritually is important – reading scriptures, asking the Lord to give us words for this child’s life. “Lord, give me a prophesy or a verse for this child so I can speak it over him all the time.” And to my surprise, when he started walking and talking, he would say this words all by himself. When we went to church and started praising the Lord, they would start kicking and screaming as though they were praising the Lord.
Sometimes the baby aborts itself because of these messages! They disappear. The mother has miscarriage and there is no explanation for it. The spirit of death can be so strong, sometimes. And the Lord says we need to just pull out these weeds.
How do we get rid of these weeds? Do we just cut them or break them? So if I have problems in my life with rejection, I cannot bond – the Lord needs to show me the roots of these feelings. It doesn’t help to take medicine and just say “okay, pull yourself together.” So we’re going to take some time just to be quiet before the Lord. And ask Him to come, and give Him permission to come and remind you of things that you have gone through as a child. We don’t remember when we were in the womb, but because the Holy Spirit was there, He can remind us of things. He can give us an impression or a thought. He knows exactly what has happened. He knows exactly what I can receive. We just need to give Him the impression to remind us. This is how the Lord healed me, and I’ve seen many people being healed in this way. He would show me a situation when I got hurt, I would see it as it happened, and then what the Lord does is He enters into that picture. He comes into that same situation and He shows me what His will for me was at that time. It wasn’t His will that I would feel rejected and get a message of death. And then naturally we ask Him why He did let that happen. Each of us has a question like that to ask God. The quick easy answer is because of free will. He gave us free will and we have the ability to make sinful choices. But when the Lord comes into the picture and shows me what He would have wanted for me at that time, and I allow Him to give me those things that I did not God, and to heal the wounds, then He actually does a miracle and it’s healed. And then we still have the memory but it doesn’t hurt anymore. I used to have so much emotional pain inside because of what happened. After the Lord healed me, I still remember what happened, but there’s no more pain, there’s just peace. Where there was fear, He put peace. Where there was rejection, He put acceptance. Where there was death, He replaced it with life. Where there was autism, God gave me the ability to make relationships. So let’s close our eyes and have some quiet time. See what the Lord will bring to our minds.
Coffee Break
In Greek, the word “salvation” means all these things: healing, deliverance, wholeness, restoration, eternal life.
We communicate with the people around us through our souls. That’s why it’s important to get our souls healed so we can go out into the world and reach out to other people. When God tells me to go out and reach out to the world, if my soul is wounded, I will do it in a certain way. If I am whole, I will reach out in a way that reflects God’s wholeness and goodness.
Let me give you an example from my life. A few months ago, the Lord told me to go to a certain baker and tell him that God loves him. But the problem was that God told me to do that in a very different way – which was to go and clean all the tables and chairs in his little bakery and then to tell him that God loves him; I was doing this to show him that God loves him. Those things were so filthy. They were black. If God would have asked me that 5 or 10 years ago, I would have said “no thank you!” Look at God’s creativity and how He wants to reach people. So I took my bucket and Clorox and I went to this man, my heart was pounding and I was thinking, “what is he going to tell me?” And I went to him and told him I wanted to clean his tables and chairs, not because they were dirty, but because God loves you. And I started cleaning. He began to help me. He wanted to help, and he started getting upset and told me, “you know what I am doing right now? I am asking the Lord to clean me just like these tables and chairs.” So, I’m just telling you this to show you the importance of being healed.
Now, back to the baby in the womb. The baby receives everything it needs from the mother. How? Through the umbilical chord. Everything the mother is going through, the child is effected by it. Also the mother needs the baby because of her maternal instincts. So they both need each other, it’s not just one. This is called symbiosis. This is the relationship between two or more characters that depend on each other to get their needs met. One needs the other to survive. Sometimes this word is used with animals. Remember this word because it’s important for the next stage.
Praise the Lord for ultrasound so that we can recognize when there is more than one baby.
Studies show that if your mother had a difficult birth, or a long labor for hours and hours, that child grew up with the idea that life is so hard and it takes so much energy to live and you just cannot face this day.
We always think of the mother when we think about birth – how difficult it is for the mother. But think from the child’s point of view. You’re warm and surrounded by waters. You’re comfortable. Pretty soon you start to turn upside down. Then one day all of the water is gone and you start to get sucked out. And every once in a while somebody yells “push!” – and when this happens you are squeezed from all sides. And when you come out it is so bright, and so cold. And they wrap you in something that they think is soft, and they hit you on the bottom, and start cleaning you and putting tubes up your nose to clean you.
There’s a verse in psalms that says “you pulled me out of my mother’s womb” – the Lord was there when you were born. He pulled you out when you were born. It wasn’t just a doctor or a nurse. Have you ever heard that before? It was a revelation for me. It gave me so much security. From the moment I was born He was holding me. He kept holding me.
Okay, this baby has been born. What’s his job now? Eat. Sleep. Grow. Just to be. He doesn’t even need to go to the toilet. This is another stage of foundation in our lives. This stage and the stage before it determine our lifestyle – our personalities. Depending on how I am taken care of, here, my personality will develop. What’s required of parents, now? Tender, love, and care. “TLC.” Unconditional nurturing. Other things can wait. Shopping can wait. Visits can wait. Even sleep can wait; but the child’s needs cannot wait. If the child is not properly taken care of at this time, they have a very weak foundation; because human beings are body, soul, and spirit. So we need to take care of the child on all these levels.
Symbiosis is still very strong in this child. So much that this baby still thinks that he and his mom are one. Although the umbilical chord is cut – it’s still there, but it’s invisible. The symbiotic relationship between mother and child is still very important, now. It means survival. If mommy is taking good care of me, I will survive. I will learn to trust. If I am not taken good care of, I will not trust and will grow up with the sense that something is very wrong with me. When I’m taken care of, I feel like I am good. I don’t think my mommy is a good mom, but I am good.
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